Member peytonhoge

Thanks for this reporting. I know it takes money and time to make this sort of trip, conduct interviews, and write this info up.

I had an SL at one time. This excites me to maybe get an SL again… or wait for SL 2.0. I liked using my TL lenses on the SL despite the crop down to 10MP.

Thanks David for this insightful report. Rarely is it reported that lens IQ is primary, camera resolution secondary, but here we are in 2018 with Leica lenses on the cutting edge like no others. I would be interested in similar interviews from Panasonic and Sigma. Would that be possible?

Is it a vulgarity to point to the difference of price between the Leica X2 (1750 euros) and the CL 18mm kit (3500 euros)? That's exactly double.

People will not buy some “system flexibility” if they are simply looking for an expert compact.

Thanks for this. I like my CL. My only complaint (are you reading Leica) is the inability to turn off Long Exposure Noise Reduction. I've looked and not found a way. Otherwise the compact TL lenses are a pleasure to carry around (relatively light weight) and have pretty good image quality (not M-good but to me as good as the Q when I owned that). I also like the menu system and ability to configure the various buttons and dials. /very easy and handy.

I've used the CL on four separate trips in the past several months and never once did I miss having image stabilization in the body. From a marketing perspective, IBIS might seem like a must-have feature, but from practical use, I personally don't need it. I've found the CL to be like a baby SL, especially in the look of the images.

Really, any of the TL lenses are good choices with regards to optical performance. The 18-56 definitely isn't what I'd call heavy, but the 18mm and the 23mm are both more compact and lighter. Personally, I tend to favor the fixed focal length lenses. The 18 will give you the equivalent FOV of a 28mm, the 23 will act like a 35mm. So, I think it really depends what you are looking for.

The CL is in a different league from the X2 with regards to AF speed. Not even close.

Interesting. Definitely missed that one. Looking at the history, seems the DP1 was released in 2008 and had a sensor a bit smaller than APS-C. So…. technically, the X1 was still the first APS-C all-in-one camera.

Nicely done,
Thanks
Jack

very enlightening!
Albert

Paul,

I agree that buffer memory should have been increased to 4GB on this generation. But…. Most fashion photographers don't shoot at full burst. Quick, yes, but not at burst speed. I think at a fast single shot rate, the S3 could keep up. A Phase One only shoots about 1 FPS max, and these are used in fashion work all the time.

For me, I see the S3 mainly as a landscape and travel camera, which is how I personally use the S007. The more compact body, full weather sealing, long battery life, excellent high ISO, and class-leading dynamic range make it the perfect tool. As a landscape photographer, do I personally care about burst depth, or even maximum FPS? Nope. The S was never intended as a sports or PJ camera, two areas where fast frame rate is paramount. Rather, the speed of the S that matters is the shot-to-shot responsiveness, playback speed and ease of operation. This is what I tested during my handling of the new camera, and it feels just as responsive as the S007.

Based on my own desires as a long-time S shooter, feedback I've received on articles, and direct conversations I've had with other S users, yes, I do think the S3 will be a success. Would I have liked to see other updates? Sure. But for me, I already love the body, lenses, viewfinder and overall shooting experience of the S. I already know how solid a workhorse it's been for me in the field. What I, and others, really wanted was a bump in resolution without sacrificing DR or low light ability. What we got was additional resolution and a marked improvement in DR, high ISO and color fidelity.

I don't know when Leica started development, but if the final result is the best sensor on the market, then I'd say it's worth the wait. 🙂

Phillip,

I understand your concerns.

I suppose I'm not bothered by a single focus point. Even when given the option of multi-point focus on the SL or CL, I usually prefer to use a central point and recompose. I often find moving a focus point around to be distracting and slower than simply focusing and reframing. For landscape shooting, I use the top display DOF readout and dial in the focus manually, which is one of the S007's killer features (also on the SL).

Having also shot the S2 a lot, then the S006 and S007, I can safely say that even before the resolution jump of the S3, the S007 is a completely different shooting experience from the S2. The ergonomics and speed are already quite good. The added DR, ISO range and resolution of the S3 are really what most users wanted, myself included. I also use the S for shooting other than static landscape. It handles walkaround shooting just fine. Even at night.

Would I have liked a better LCD? Of course. More capable video? Maybe, although I use the SL for this, so it's not my top use for the S. I can think of a handful of nice-to-haves, but Leica's focus was clearly centered around maximum image quality and I do think they have delivered on that goal. Some may not feel the resolution is adequate, but I'll take a camera that is pushing 16 stops of DR, can shoot cleanly at ISO 6400, handles like a champ, offers all day battery life, is virtually impervious to the elements, has a phenomenal range of lenses and one of the clearest and brightest viewfinders ever made, along with *only* 64MP of resolution.

From your shots it appears that this show is well attended. Is it or are there some vendor areas that are substantially more crowded than others?

Were you able to get any sense in the L Mount meeting whether or not a new SL is around the corner or the current model has some more years left? The current trade-in discount could be interpreted as clearing out inventory.

Delayed due to ‘global circumstances', but still coming!

My guess is that due to the current situation, theses lenses will most likely get pushed back to 2021. But, that's just an educated guess.

Bill, each model camera has its own specific firmware. This post is about new firmware for the Leica M10 and M10-P only. The latest firmware version for the M Monochrom (Typ 246) is 1.0.2.0 and you can download it here: http://us.leica-camera.com/content/download/146831/2484798/version/2/file/M_246-1.0.2.0-CUSTOMER.FW

Profiles should have saved to the SD card during this final step, before the update gets started.

Your suggestion is a good one, though. In the future, we will advise users to back up their user profiles to an SD card before proceeding with the update.

I installed it on my iPhone and mated it to my Leica TL2.
Not yet ready for prime time. It does connect very easily, a big improvement over the old and very fussy
TL iPhone App. But the new Fotos App. also disconnects when not intended, requiring new acquisition. I realize it is a Beta version, but I think you ought to contact Fotos and tell them that the App has this problem.

For what it's worth, I've been beta testing the Foto app for about 10 minutes and it has frozen my M10 twice. I had to pull the battery to restart. Let's just say that it's not ready for the masses.

Hi, I've just bought my CL and downloaded the Fotos PRO app but I cannot get it to capture using the remote. I can adjust some basic settings but when I touch the button to take the shot nothiing happens. Not impressed at all with the app. Anybody any ideas if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks.

Oliver, it was 3 seconds and is now 10. I have fixed the article. Thank you for pointing that out! I never use this mode (easier to carry a spare battery or two) so I was not too familiar with how it operated in 3.2. I'll have to try the Shutter Pressed option in the EVF-only mode tomorrow, so I will get back to you on that.

Hans-Dieter, firmware 3.3 is compatible only with the FOTOS app which is being released later this month. Until that comes out, you cannot use the camera's WiFi with the old app, as far as I know!