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spoons;4673 wrote: Proof that no matter what you lens you have, it's never quite wide enough….
So true. But we don't always have the luxury of been able to knock the wall out of the way. 😮
Josh Lehrer;4282 wrote: I pulled together a few DNG sample files from the Leica S. Nothing award winning but it gives you an idea of what the camera is capable of. All the files have been edited in Lightroom using my basic S presets, and then exported as DNG files.
Leica S (typ 006) Sample DNG Files
Feel free to use the files for examination but note they are not for publication elsewhere or any commercial distribution. As I mentioned I've applied some basic edits but of course they can be reset so you can see what the out-of-camera file looked like.
Thank you.
stephan;2275 wrote: I don't think they spent a lot of money to implement this b/w sensor. The changes to the sensor itself is minimal (just replace the bayerpattern) and some programming and there you go. Probably they spent more on marketing than in the technical improvement. it is probably the last kick of the M9-line before comming out with a M10.
The other point is, that within a year or less we will see a M10, that will have, let's guess, somewhat 30 mpix and maybe a CMOS-sensor, and then you will have the best of two worlds and equal B/W-quality.
The difference is: You get your MM now 🙂
On the other hand, as said before, when you are a b/w photographer, I don't see any need to replace the MM soon. With it's high ISOs and high resolution there is just no need for replacement.
OK Stephan, I'll go with that. As I said in an earlier post I am just disappointed their is no M10 now.
John
Atanabe;2263 wrote: jto555,
The M9M will being a monochrome capture will not have the color matrix filters and not be able to do the Photoshopping that you have mentioned. You will have to think in B&W and marry the subject to the capture medium. It is a learned discipline – to think in B&W.-Al
Hi Al, I understand what you are saying. I spent the first part of my career shooting B/W but I think you are missing my point which is that for shooting B/W the M9 is, I believe, more convenient as the image is more open to interpretation after the event.
With the M9M, I will need a bag of filters for each size lens filter mount. Also, the idea of putting a $100 filter in front of a $7000 lens does nor appeal.One has to spent more money for less convenience.
John
Josh Lehrer;2238 wrote: From what I understand there are no supply issues with Leica M9 sensors. The cameras are still available brand new and we can always order more from Leica when needed.
Leica is all about unique products that are peerless, and I think the new Leica M Monochrom fits that perfectly. Of course they understand it won't be the volume seller so that puts the price point a bit higher.
Leica never planned on launching an M10 today, that should hopefully be something we see at Photokina this year!
So I suppose I respectfully disagree that this is a waste of time. The M9 has been hugely successful for Leica, and they have a clear understanding of the customer base. Thousands of M users came from shooting black and white film and value a beautiful, natural black and white image, and now have the ability to shoot the finest black and white photographs possible with a 35mm sized sensor.
I think the Leica M Monochrom will be a smashing success, and offer breathtaking image quality and the truest, purest black and white shooting experience this side of Tri-X.
Hi Josh, yes the M9 has been a huge success for Leica and is a good camera with great lenses. But with the M9M try to lighten parts of say the blue channel and darken other parts. Say darken a blue sky while lighting a blue dress. I can with an M9 and photoshop.
I suppose that I am just disappointed as I was looking forward to an M10 and, I am sure that you will agree, that Leica launching the M9M on M(ay)10 is leaving them open to a bit of bad or disappointed press.
Brian;2241 wrote: The resale value of the M9-M will be higher than standard a standard M9 or any other color camera. The resale value of the DCS760m was far higher than the DCS760, about a factor of 4. Monochrome cameras are, and continue to be low-production items that serve a very dedicated user base. Once you shoot with a dedicated monochrome camera, it's difficult to be happy with a converted digital color image.
This is a good move by Leica to serve a loyal customer base.
Hi Brian, I think we will find out in a years time which one of us is right. I suspect that after the initial rush for the camera demand will drop off.
I am sorry, but what a waste of time! An M9M that costs more than an M9 but I bet will have a lower resale value in a years time.
I am guessing here but if Leica is having supply issues with the M9 sensor maybe the M10 was supposed to be launched on M(ay)10th but there is also a supply issue there too.
