- March 12, 2012 at 2:51 pm #2121
Just upgraded to the latest version and it seems to be a substantial improvement for both my Leica and Nikon files. Anybody else feel the same way?
David and Josh… your presets need to be reworked for this iteration of LR. The old ones give bizarre results.
- March 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm #2122
David K;1999 wrote: Just upgraded to the latest version and it seems to be a substantial improvement for both my Leica and Nikon files. Anybody else feel the same way?
David and Josh… your presets need to be reworked for this iteration of LR. The old ones give bizarre results.
substantial improvement in which regard?
- March 13, 2012 at 12:33 am #2123
I had been using the LR4 beta since it came out and came to the same conclusion as you. Now that LR4 has been officially released, I have to pony up for the upgrade.
- March 13, 2012 at 11:56 am #2124
It seems to me that the new sliders (Highlights, Whites, Shadows, Blacks) in the Basic section of the Develop module allow for better control over the way the image is rendered. The attached Nikon D3S image (using LR4) is a shot that I had worked up in LR 3 but was not happy with. Couldn’t lighten up the faces and the horses without the rest of the image getting funky. Granted this could be attributed to shortcomings in my post processing skills with LR3…but the fact is that I couldn’t get it where I wanted it before and now I can. For those who do upgrade I’d suggest watching a few tutorials since the tweaking workflow has changed a bit. There are a number of other improvements, e.g. mapping, making books, etc. that are impressive as well but it’s these Develop sliders that I was referring to.
- March 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm #2125
Thanks David for the info. Sounds good. As soon as I find some time I will probably upgrade.
- March 13, 2012 at 9:10 pm #2129
You’re quite welcome…here’s a link you might find informative.
- March 17, 2012 at 1:00 am #2137
Thinking maybe I should have waited a while before touting LR4. Recently tried to export 200+ S2 DNG’s to relatively small jpegs and it takes forever. Much, much slower than LR3. Probably best to wait a while before making the changeover. I would have thought that after the extensive beta testing Adobe would have worked these kinds of bugs out…
- March 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm #2155
David,
Are you running it in 64bit mode? Does seem odd that a simple process should take so long. Good excuse for a cool beer or a mojito I guess. 😎 - March 26, 2012 at 4:25 pm #2163
Al, the performance issues for LR 4 are apparently very common. I’m sure that Adobe will address them…just a question of how soon. You can download the free trial and see if you have problems on your machine. I’m still using it for adjustments but the slowness in exports is annoying. And I don’t need any excuses to enjoy a good mojito…although I do prefer a Caipirinha these days 🙂
- March 26, 2012 at 5:32 pm #2164David FarkasNewbieHollywood, FLJoin Date: Aug 2014Posts: 414Currently using:
Leica M, Leica S, Leica SL, Leica CLOfflineDavid K;2044 wrote: Al, the performance issues for LR 4 are apparently very common. I’m sure that Adobe will address them…just a question of how soon. You can download the free trial and see if you have problems on your machine. I’m still using it for adjustments but the slowness in exports is annoying. And I don’t need any excuses to enjoy a good mojito…although I do prefer a Caipirinha these days 🙂
We just ran a quick test with 10 S2 images in LR 4. Export to 1000px wide, 90 quality JPG with screen sharpening took 44 seconds on our Windows 7 64-bit desktop machine (about 4 sec/image). How long is it taking for you?
David Farkas
Red Dot Forum
Leica Store Miami - March 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm #2165
About 1min 15 secs for the same number of images with the same settings. The problem manifested itself for me when I needed to process a few hundred images for upload to the web so the client could make selections. That process took well over half an hour which seemed awfully slow. But at 7.5 secs per image…it makes sense.
- March 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm #2166David FarkasNewbieHollywood, FLJoin Date: Aug 2014Posts: 414Currently using:
Leica M, Leica S, Leica SL, Leica CLOfflineOkay, so I did a little bit more testing. First I took a batch of ten S2 files (all different real-life images) and processed them in LR 3.6 with my standard S2 preset. Ten images exported to 1000px wide JPG, quality 90 with screen sharpening took 38 seconds. I then ran the exact same images through LR4 two ways. The first was without adjustments, the second was with my standard sharpening and some tone adjustments. Without any changes, LR4 took 45 seconds (the same as I posted here initially). With adjustments, though, the time jumps significantly to 58 seconds. The results are outlined here:
LR3.6 (w/ preset): 38 sec
LR4 (no edits): 45 sec
LR4 (w/ edits): 58 secI assume I’m getting faster times just because of the computer used for testing. It’s a new machine we built for imaging: quad core i7 overclocked to 4.4Ghz with 16GB RAM and a fast SSD. I’m not sure why LR4 is taking so much longer than LR3.6 though with the same image and roughly the same edits. :confused:
David Farkas
Red Dot Forum
Leica Store Miami - March 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm #2167
Hopefully these issues will be addressed very shortly in LR 4.1
- April 2, 2012 at 2:09 am #2180
I had been using the Lightroom 4 beta and didn’t notice any speed issues. In fact, it seemed very fast on my new laptop. Now that I have upgraded to the actual LR 4 release I am noticing slow downs even when zooming to 100% which was near instantaneous in the Beta version.
- April 4, 2012 at 7:17 pm #2186
Hello.
I’ve found the updated LR4 develop module to be a fantastic upgrade from LR3, and I use it if I have a small number of image files to process. I’m thrilled with the updated capabilities.
IF I have a large commercial job to run (200 to 1000+ files) that requires minimal adjustments where I can ignore the develop module, I revert to LR3. I’ve found LR4 to be virtually unusable running large jobs because it is so much slower than LR3.
My laptop’s hardware specs have even improved from months ago and yet the LR4 slowdown is dramatic. I am hoping Adobe updates soon to address this issue. Just Google “Lightroom 4 is slow”. The threads are prolific.
- May 17, 2012 at 9:53 pm #2384
David Farkas;2050 wrote: Okay, so I did a little bit more testing. First I took a batch of ten S2 files (all different real-life images) and processed them in LR 3.6 with my standard S2 preset. Ten images exported to 1000px wide JPG, quality 90 with screen sharpening took 38 seconds. I then ran the exact same images through LR4 two ways. The first was without adjustments, the second was with my standard sharpening and some tone adjustments. Without any changes, LR4 took 45 seconds (the same as I posted here initially). With adjustments, though, the time jumps significantly to 58 seconds. The results are outlined here:
LR3.6 (w/ preset): 38 sec
LR4 (no edits): 45 sec
LR4 (w/ edits): 58 secI assume I’m getting faster times just because of the computer used for testing. It’s a new machine we built for imaging: quad core i7 overclocked to 4.4Ghz with 16GB RAM and a fast SSD. I’m not sure why LR4 is taking so much longer than LR3.6 though with the same image and roughly the same edits. :confused:
Folks,
I am new to this posting and was reading this thread and just could not resist. Isn’t it interesting how impatient we all have gotten. I can remember waiting 2.5 minutes as my 4.7 megahz computer saved to my 5.25 floppy.
Plus David, using an SSD drive speeds up everything. I have SSD’s on 3 out of the five computers I use and it makes a big difference in almost everything that I do here in the scanning department at the university.
Tom L.L.
- May 18, 2012 at 1:32 pm #2392
Hello.
After my initial griping about the painful slowness of LR4, I received a beneficial link. http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/optimize-performance-lightroom.html
The two most important points I implemented are:
-Leave autowrite XMP turned off. I save the XMP data just before I do the final archive of the project. I don’t know the reason but this has helped speed.-Render 1:1 previews intentionally on import. The initial import is a lot slower, but when you’re in the develop module doing your edits, LR4 does not have to render the file while you’re waiting.
My LR4 problems are gone, and I’ve realized these improvements without a hardware tweak.
- June 6, 2012 at 6:07 pm #2535
I intend to update over the weekend. Is there anything one needs to be aware of. The worst thing that I can imagine is that my catalogue of 30 k (not all S2 though) immages goes south or that the development settings are suddenly way off.
Thanks.
Georg
- June 6, 2012 at 7:08 pm #2536David FarkasNewbieHollywood, FLJoin Date: Aug 2014Posts: 414Currently using:
Leica M, Leica S, Leica SL, Leica CLOfflineGMB;2494 wrote: I intend to update over the weekend. Is there anything one needs to be aware of. The worst thing that I can imagine is that my catalogue of 30 k (not all S2 though) immages goes south or that the development settings are suddenly way off.
Thanks.
Georg
Georg,
I updated my entire catalog to LR4.1. No issues and 4.1 is noticeably faster than 4.0. Totally worth it. The added CA and defringing tools are really, really nice as well.
I’d recommend making a backup of your LR catalog before upgrading. This is always good practice.
David Farkas
Red Dot Forum
Leica Store Miami - June 6, 2012 at 10:01 pm #2537
Hi David,
Have you made an S2 preset for this version of Lightroom? I’ve used one that you developed in the past that was a great jumping off point. If you have a new one, would you mind sharing?
Thanks.
Kurt
- June 7, 2012 at 5:45 am #2540
+1
- August 31, 2012 at 2:20 pm #2887
I’m curious about this. Looking at Adobe’s site about Camera Raw, I see that the S2 isn’t listed: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/extend.html. (The MM is listed.)
Anyone know why that is? I’m upgrading software and saw this. Also, does anyone have any opinions about CS6/Lightroom 4.1 versus Capture 1? I haven’t used Capture 1, but since I’m upgrading a bunch of things, I thought I’d ask.
- September 1, 2012 at 1:16 am #2889
I can assure you that Lightroom 4 fully supports the S2. In fact, LR4 is included when you buy a S2. Leica and Adobe seem to have an excellent relationship. In fact, this link shows that the latest release candidate for LR4 includes profiles for S lens that haven’t even been released yet.
- January 11, 2013 at 5:11 pm #3453
Mark Gowin;3027 wrote: I can assure you that Lightroom 4 fully supports the S2. In fact, LR4 is included when you buy a S2. Leica and Adobe seem to have an excellent relationship. In fact, this link shows that the latest release candidate for LR4 includes profiles for S lens that haven’t even been released yet.
Mark, looking at the link shows profiles for R-lenses which will come back into fashion once the new M is released due to the adaptor that will become available. Together with live view and focus peaking (or peeking?) you will be a whole new set of great glass for your M! 😮
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